by Grace Smith
Special to the Daily Press
On Sunday, Feb. 3, three-time GRAMMY Award-winning band Maroon 5 will take the stage at the most-watched concert of the year: the Pepsi Super Bowl LIII Halftime Show. GRAMMY-nominated rapper Travis Scott and Atlanta native Big Boi (hip-hop icon and one-half of hip-hop duo Outkast) will join them on stage at the Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, where the New England Patriots and Los Angeles Rams will face off.
Santa Monica College (SMC) alum Jesse Carmichael will be on that stage Sunday. Carmichael — Maroon 5’s keyboardist/rhythm guitarist — studied at SMC.
Carmichael met Maroon 5 front man Adam Levine and bassist Mickey Madden while they were students at Brentwood School. Their friendship and artistic relationship has endured over an illustrious career.
Maroon 5 has sold over 36 million albums, 48 million singles worldwide, and earned gold and platinum certifications in more than 35 countries.
Santa Monica College’s Public Information Office caught up with Carmichael to talk about his musical influences, art, fatherhood, his relationship with Adam Levine — and what fans can expect from Maroon 5 this Sunday.
When was the first time you realized that you wanted to pursue music?
I think it was when I was about seven . . . I started playing the piano, an electric piano my parents got. I loved classical music and Bach’s Prelude No. 1 in C major – The Well-Tempered Clavier was the piece I loved the sound of; I had a piano teacher show me how to play it.
Then my sister started to play guitar—I loved the sound of the guitar and started to take lessons in seventh grade. That’s when we started going to Brentwood High School in Los Angeles where I met Adam (Levine) and Mickey (Madden)—we all became friends. Adam was already a good guitar player, and he started to show me more and we started to write songs together.
Tell us about Kara’s Flowers—your first band with Adam—and how that first record deal came about.
We were in 10th grade. It was the day that we recorded our first demo tape. We played at a beach party in Malibu that night and a producer was walking his dog on the beach and heard us; he came up and I had a [demo] tape in my coat pocket and gave it to him. The next day, they gave us a recording contract. We went on to record our first pass at an album and we had switched to a major label by the time we were done with high school. We thought we were going to be a big band because it was a major label—but it was a shifting time in the music world and we sounded like Green Day meets The Beatles. At that time, Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears came out, no one really wanted to hear [our kind of] music anymore. The record label dropped us but they had to pay us to leave so we got to take a little time off— and that’s when I went to Santa Monica College, while we were figuring out what to do after the “failure”.
So you took several music courses at SMC, in 2000-2001 and again in 2005?
Yes, I was always trying to fit in continuing education after high school and when we weren’t on the road. I fell in love with the college; I thought all the teachers were great. We came from a school that aimed at getting kids ready for Ivy League college experiences; a lot of people who went to our high school went on to schools like Harvard. When I went to Santa Monica College, it was the same level of care [I had received] from the teachers at Brentwood. I took some UCLA Extension courses as well . . . but I really fell in love with the music program at SMC and Dr. [David] Goodman was such a great teacher. It was a very inspiring time.
(Editor’s note: Carmichael studied popular harmony and arranging; tonal counterpoint; and orchestration at Santa Monica College)
So you just heard about the music program at SMC and decided to enroll?
Yeah—we lived nearby, too; I had an apartment on Centinela and Santa Monica Boulevard for a while, then I moved to Culver City in 2005. The college campus was beautiful and I loved the people I met there. I took other classes as well: American Government, Psychology, and Statistics. I finished my whole two-year certification [lower-division college coursework] at SMC. I was thinking at some point I would transfer to a school like UCLA, but everything took off with the band and I never moved on to any other college experience. Although someday, I will, because—this pertains especially to music—learning is such a lifetime experience. The more I learn about music, the more I realize what I did not know . . .
Whom would you count among your greatest influences, not just in music but also in life?
My parents come to mind, first. From the classical music world: Bach, Mozart, Chopin and Stravinsky . . . all the way up to Steve Reich. And film composers Danny Elfman, Hans Zimmer… it’s inspiring for me to see people who’ve come from rock and electronic music backgrounds segueing into that [film] world. My father was a filmmaker—I grew up loving photography and film and I’m now getting more into that world myself, doing scoring work, shooting, editing, directing and writing. That’s going to be part of the next chapter in my life.
Anyone who is passionate about their craft is inspiring, and people who are selfless with their time and doing charity work—bringing awareness of climate change to the world and tackling the problems of inequality.
Tell me more about 1863—your solo project. How did that come about? Where did the name come from?
1863 came to me when I was looking for a name for a side project and I had just gotten a T-shirt from a friend . . . the company had printed on the inside of the shirt this Gothic script that said: “1863: Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation” and that spoke to me. Because I love this idea of the pursuit of freedom and the pursuit of equality on every level of life, whether we’re talking about society or the individual.
I have been so lucky with Maroon 5, to have financial stability in my life. So that everything I do with a side project is only motivated by a need to express something. In that sense, it feels like a very free realm for me. I am interested in pursuing a type of freedom within myself that will then hopefully radiate outwards in my interactions with other people.
How would you describe your—at this point, long-term—relationship with Adam (Levine)?
Adam is one of my musical heroes and I am so grateful that I got to grow up with him, and I am really looking forward to what kind of music we will make together as a band moving forward. After a lot of intense efforts on our part and transitions in the band where we started to work with outside songwriters for the last couple albums, there seems to be a time coming where we will all be more settled in our homes and with our families and less busy on the road. It is possible that some future Maroon 5 music will be a little more collaborative and experimental . . . we’ll see. In the meantime, we already have some new songs coming together for a new album, a continuation of the super-catchy, forward-thinking pop music that we have been focused on for the last couple albums.
What can we expect from Maroon 5 this Sunday?
We are so (laughs) excited about the show we put together for the Super Bowl—it is a really good selection of songs and we’ve got some great guest artists joining for the performance. The production design for the stage, lights, video, and pyrotechnics is really exciting. I just think it’s a really great moment in the band’s career to get to show a lot of people who don’t know a lot about [Maroon 5]. . . maybe they’ve only heard songs on the radio, but now they’re going to see what we do live. The kind of guitar player Adam is, for example, I don’t think a lot of people know what a truly amazing guitar player he is. And the whole vibe of the band—live—is much more rock ‘n’ roll and high-energy. So I think that could surprise a lot of people.
What advice do you have for students or up-and-coming musicians who want to follow in your footsteps?
We always were so focused on how much we love music. We’ve organized our lives so that we could work as hard as possible on music and on top of that we were really lucky to have so many great situations just show up in our lives. Like that producer walking his dog on the beach . . . those are the kind of things you can’t control. The stuff you can control is really just a question of discipline, love, and passion for exploring whatever creative realm [you] are interested in. It’s about finding the balance between personal effort and trusting that something else is guiding you . . . you can think of music as a living entity that goes out and finds ways to show up in the world through people who are passionate about it. I think it’s the same for any other creative endeavor.
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